Comments on: RAD Studio 2010 Review #2: The new old Component Toolbar.

By: Tad

Tad — Thu, 15 Oct 2009 11:46:44 +0000

lol, you made me laugh so hard… Thanks for that post

By: Личная записная

Личная записная — Tue, 25 Aug 2009 21:32:05 +0000

[...] компоненты в Delphi7-style виде. Читаем обзор функции на Wings of Wind, а также у Andreano Lanusse и Nick [...]

By: naf

naf — Tue, 11 Aug 2009 23:20:30 +0000

The return to the old component palette is a step in the right direction but it doesn’t go far enough. I also want to hide the search box on the palette and change the IDE’s swish new graphics. It looks way too modern now IMO. Also, there should be options to disable generics, record methods, for in, and other language enhancements because that $h1t just scares me. And can there be an install option that names everything “Borland” Delphi. I don’t want to get all flustered trying to find the application shortcut under my Start Menu. And do you think we can pressure NBC into getting the Friends cast back together?

By: Phil Read

Phil Read — Tue, 11 Aug 2009 00:02:22 +0000

2010 versions? Most people have not even moved to 2009 versions for full production. I think it’s all a revenue making excercise bringing out a version every year. What happened to updates and improving current versions, the installer / upgrader is still painful.

By: Pratt

Pratt — Sat, 08 Aug 2009 17:33:10 +0000

I don’t remember exact names of components I use.

By: Wings of Wind

Wings of Wind — Sat, 08 Aug 2009 16:24:27 +0000

It is exactly the Andy’s toolbar.

By: Gil

Gil — Sat, 08 Aug 2009 02:27:27 +0000

Yo tengo varias versiones de Delphi desde D1 siempre la he adquirido con descuento, Unicode tal ves te sea util, es parte de las nuevas versiones.

Saludos

By: IBranch

IBranch — Fri, 07 Aug 2009 21:16:44 +0000

One nice add-on I had n D7 allowed me me to create a tab inthe Component Toolbar, say Databases, and then put all the Database related VCL Tabs under it so you only saw the Database Tab.

Similarly you could create say a TMS tab and put all the TMS VCL tabs under it.

When you clicked the Database or TMS tab it opened the sub-tabs under it.

Reduced the ‘clutter’ from heaps of VCL libraries enormously.

Any chance?

Ian

By: Fabricio

Fabricio — Fri, 07 Aug 2009 16:52:01 +0000

(For all others)
What I tried to say in spanish language: you can update your Delphi tool with discount. Search for the upgrade price. In Brazil, the difference of price of a full license and the upgrade one is great.

By: Fabricio

Fabricio — Fri, 07 Aug 2009 16:49:36 +0000

(Io no hablo español bueno) Tu podes actualizar la herramienta con descuento. Busca per lo precio de Upgrade. En Brasil, la diferencia es mucha.

By: Carlos Enrique Velez Farak

Carlos Enrique Velez Farak — Thu, 06 Aug 2009 18:29:17 +0000

Espero me entiendan yo no hablo ingles bueno es lo siguente hace mas de un año que compre Rad Studio 2007 y no he podido hacer una aplicacion nueva con esta herramienta y ya han aparecido dos nuevas versiones de ella y no estoy en capacidad de actualizar dicha herramienta no seria bueno que se pueda actualizar la que tengo con un descuento

By: Tim

Tim — Thu, 06 Aug 2009 17:50:06 +0000

“With so many component creators abandoning development in Delphi, lots of people do not upgrade to more recent Delphi releases because can not find newer releases of their components.”

I used Delphi from version 1 to 5. That’s was way back in the days, just a few years after I got thrown out of the Polydata shop on Strandvejen by Anders Heisberg for playing to much on the shop’s Vic 20

But now I’m considering coming back. Datasnap with the combination of multiple platforms (the windows desktop os mono-culture is struggling, fortunately) is what turns me on. And if they manage to lets us develop datasnap clients on iphone/android/winmobile/ect., then I will be the forerunner of a watershed movement!

By: LDS

LDS — Thu, 06 Aug 2009 14:49:05 +0000

That’s why I always used only components with source code. IMHO one of the greatest features of Delphi was releasing the VCL source code and incouraging third party developers to release their own source code.

By: LDS

LDS — Thu, 06 Aug 2009 14:46:41 +0000

Did they understand they could have developed “ribbons” before MS if they weren’t too busy to copy VS? The old toolbar has more to do with the ribbon concept that the new toolbar that uses a metaphor closer to the outlook bar. But the outlook bar was designed to interact with few items, not many. The ribbon can handle many more.

By: Pietro Volgar

Pietro Volgar — Thu, 06 Aug 2009 14:25:51 +0000

Cris,
What I meant is that the improvements of each version (after discounting the bug fixes + the increase in the size of the executables + and all the porting issues) are not enough to make most developers wish to upgrade.
I know that Unicode came with Delphi 2009, but since long you could use 3rd party Unicode components. Other “improvements” are not really important and developers can use alternatives.

IMHO, unless Embarcadero, focus in what developers really want they will continue loosing market share.
For example, everybody knows that Delphi is really good at developing Win32 applications. However, no serious advancement have been done in converting Windows header files (compare for example with what what the guys at Jedi have done). Another think is the 64-bit compiler, it appears they are not giving priority to it when developers have been strongly asking for it for a few years now.

By: Chris

Chris — Thu, 06 Aug 2009 12:05:48 +0000

Pietro – no significant language changes since D7? Off the top of my head, D2005 added lots of small but useful things (for/in loops, class helpers, ‘advanced’ records, inlining, strict private scope, class constants, nested types, etc.) and D2009 a couple more, namely native unicode string types (including a proper UTF8String) and generics, generics surely being a biggie even if the implementation was admittedly buggy if pushed.

“And more, people just dont find fun in the latest IDEs.”

What do you mean? Being without CTRL+ALT+P and SyncEdit in particular makes going back to D7 no ‘fun’ at all for me, leaving aside the lack of support for UTF8 source files, missing VCL improvements, later language features, etc… Are you sure you’re not conflating ‘buggy as hell’ (which was what D8-2006 were) with ‘no improvement even if it worked properly’?

By: Pietro Volgar

Pietro Volgar — Thu, 06 Aug 2009 10:21:30 +0000

Remembered another thing.
With so many component creators abandoning development in Delphi, lots of people do not upgrade to more recent Delphi releases because can not find newer releases of their components.
If I could convert some Delphi 5 or 7 DCUs to be used in Delphi 2010 I might consider an upgrade (my last one was to Delphi 2006, which I do not use at all).
Thats all for the moment.

By: Pietro Volgar

Pietro Volgar — Thu, 06 Aug 2009 10:12:21 +0000

As someone said above, people would be far more happy with language enhancements than with IDE changes.
See, why lots of people is still using Delphi 7? No significant language changes since Delphi 7 (actually even before).
And more, people just dont find fun in the latest IDEs. Dooh

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اخبار توسعه دهندگان « نوشته های یک برنامه نویس — Wed, 05 Aug 2009 19:02:58 +0000

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By: Cobus Kruger

Cobus Kruger — Wed, 05 Aug 2009 17:48:09 +0000

Wow! That completely invalidates one of the points in my “Debunking the Delphi 7 Myths” post. And it filters, making it far easier to find what you’re looking for. So not only do they now give developers a choice, but they’ve actually upgraded the version some people missed.

Very nicely done. I still think the new toolbox is what I’ll use, but at least the debate can finally die. Or perhaps I’ll use IDE insight instead – that’s going to be a productivity game changer.